| John
O'Connell is actively pursuing a new career of investing
in and being an non-executive of IT and related companies,
having recently retired as Executive Vice President
of Tibco Software Inc. a Palo Alto, Californian based
software infrastructure company. He is now working on
a part-time consulting basis with Tibco. Tibco acquired,
for approx $220 million in June of 2004, the London
Stock Exchange listed Staffware plc, where John was
Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Staffware
was acknowledged as the leading workflow and business
process management (BPM) software company worldwide
and one of Europe's top software companies.
John is recognized as
one of Europe's top entrepreneurs. He is a founder
Member and Patron of the Technology Leadership Group
of the Prince's Trust. He holds a Master of Information
Technology from the Washington DC based AIIM International
and is also a member of their Company of Fellows.
This year, he was awarded the Carl E. Nelson Innovation
Award for 'leadership in expanding the utilization
of workflow and business management technologies.'
Q. Staffware was acknowledged
as the leading workflow and business process management
(BPM) software company worldwide and one of Europe's
top software companies. Tibco was one of many companies
to see the potential of Staffware. At any time during
the acquisition process did you contemplate applying
the brakes to continue down the road with Staffware
yourself?
I consulted with my management
colleagues; major institutional shareholders (scenario
setting, not specifics) and advisers at pretty much
every step of the way. Their original offer was rebuffed
on price grounds but the second one was accepted.
There were some wobbly moments, especially in the
early hours of the day leading up to the announcement
of the offer being recommended by the board. Philosophically
it was a shame that one of the few successful UK Software
companies, globally, had disappeared, but our stakeholders
felt the 'price was right'. (No crocodile tears here.)
Q. What was the most
difficult part of the assimilation into Tibco?
The realisation that
we no longer called the shots in terms of policy;
that lawyers and accountants hold sway far more than
a European software company and that the US model
is very much silos of organisation, by function -
sales; marketing; hr; legal; support; etc, not horizontal
within countries , as Staffware used to be. This meant
that each function can be doing its own thing, adequately,
but the whole company view only comes together at
the board level, with limited business management
responsibility further down the line. I have no doubt
that this is the standard US business model.
Q. If you had to do
it over again, would you do anything differently?
No I don't think so.
It was right I stayed on for a transitional period,
which allowed me to come up with recommendations for
the new management structure (not needing me fortunately)having
gained first hand knowledge of how the two companies
might best be integrated. It was right I left when
I did as founders typically do not make good employees.
Q. You have a tremendous
track record of success in both Europe and North America
- do you notice any key differences between US and
European entrepreneur's?
The US is still very
much more vision driven with typically more ambitious
goals, both personally and for their company. On the
other hand, they may not have the resilience or pragmatism
to hang on in there if the going gets tougher than
expected. Terrible generalisation, but I am more inclined
to believe the European's view of how things are,
than the US executive whose unquenchable gung-ho attitude
might mask major problems, needing urgent attention.
So typically US types will either earn you far more
or cost you far more. Europeans might not reach the
same heights, but nor will they plumb the same depths.
Q. Did you ever have difficulty raising capital
to support your entrepreneurial ventures - how have
times changed?
I had great difficulty
in the eighties and early nineties - never had any
VC backing for instance. Had an Investment Bank invest
pension funds initially, then angel investors in 1988,
then a clearing bank, reluctantly, then floated on
AIM in 1996, then onto Main LSE market in 2000. For
most of that period UK investment community was very
ignorant of software market and a considerable amount
of our time was spent in educational mode. This has
changed considerably and there are far more funds
with a specialisation in software than they ever used
to be. Battle hardened from 2000, tough times have
made them more rational in assessing opportunities
also.
Q. Are there any emerging technology areas within
the IT sector that you are particularly interested
in? Are you investing in this area?
Enterprise Software is
my bag, with a potential to be a leader in their field,
internationally , with proven appeal to the US market
preferably, allied to dynamic , experienced management,
with good funding or early day successes which could
result in transformational performance and returns.
One or two more Staffwares in other words, but with
a time frame of 3- 5 years, not 15-20!!
Q. What was the inspiration for founding the Technology
Leadership Group of the Prince's Trust?
My humble beginnings
; believe that outsiders with the right encouragement
at the right time can become insiders and salving
my social conscience, together with liking start-up
situations.
Q. Have you ever invested
in companies that came to your attention through the
Technology Leadership Group of the Prince's Trust?
Not so far, but I can
see no reason why it should not happen.
Q. Do you think England
Rugby's slide to 6th place in the world rankings is
justified?
After losing to the French
at Twickenham, the answer is probably yes. However,
it is better to come from behind than to be the favourite
in everyone's sights, in my opinion. No team can suffer
the loss of some many players so quickly - this is
a metaphor for building a successful, sustainable
business too, in my humble opinion.
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