This is the fourth company that Rod
MacGregor and Henry Nash have built
together, which in and of itself is
extraordinary. That's the piece that
personally I got really excited about,
completely separately from the technology.
I mean, how many guys in their early 40s do
you know that are going out in this market?
They've never become gazillionaires but
they've always been successful
entrepreneurs. They've always made money
for their shareholders. In kind of typical
British style, they don't necessarily know
how to take credit for it. One of the real
reasons VW invested in them was the
strength of the management team. They've
got a tried and true team that de-risks the
proposition.
How do corporate venture capital
units know what to invest in these days?
It's that old Bill Joy quote, "Assume
innovation occurs elsewhere." O.K., so I
know it's out there, how do I bring it in?
Do I have the right people for bringing it
in? But then how do you integrate it back
into the guys that are running R&D and
procurement and things like that? U.S.
companies are very good at acquiring
innovation from start-ups. European
companies tend to grow more organically,
less by acquisition. I think that's got to
change. Part of what corporate venturing
needs to be about is that buy-build
decision - do we invest, acquire, do we
build ourselves, do we take two different
bets and see which one works out? The point
is you can't control innovation. It
happens.
Are you finding more successful
entrepreneurs now?
The line between success and failure is
really blurring. You have so many people
who have attempted to build new companies
over the past four years, and the
overwhelming number of them have not
"succeeded." You have a couple of things
that fall out from that. You have a group
of much more well-rounded managers. And the
other thing is how can you possibly blame
people who failed, when it's the majority
of the people out there who've not
succeeded at what they set out to do?
I'm fascinated, in the European market,
by people who are consistently successful
as entrepreneurs. Frankly, those are the
people I targeted at Ariadne to be my
investors. Those are very special people
here. Everybody migrates to Silicon Valley
- it's probably the most competitive place
on earth for that kind of talent. That's
great. But in Europe, what's the growth
story going to be? Is it just that we're
going to keep annexing countries and become
a bigger market? Who are the engines of
wealth creation? You've still got a group
of people that are looking for either the
state to take care of them, companies to
take care of them, or they're looking to
certain families to provide for them. As
someone said to me in Germany last week,
the Germans are still too wealthy. They
don't understand that they're getting more
than they're putting out. We do a lot of
work with Indians. Talk about a group of
people that are taking the world by storm.
When you're hiring people, you look for
incredible amounts of energy, drive, good
attitude, good work ethic - and then you
consider what their skills are. Of all the
people I interview for our portfolio
companies for Ariadne, I'm just
consistently impressed with the people
coming out of India because they know what
an opportunity is.
What's next?
A couple of different areas interest us.
The relationship between fixed and mobile
telephony is converging. Our phone, our
office PBX system, our mobile - they're
going to converge and be integrated.
Another trend in general in technology is
the discussion around personal digital
identity. To steal somebody's identity or
to appropriate their abilities online, that
seems very real to me today. I don't feel
in control of my identity online, although
it hasn't affected me in a massive way.
This is where Passport from Microsoft comes
in. But do I want Microsoft to be in charge
of my digital identity, or do I want myself
to be in charge of my digital identity?
There's going to be innovation around that.